More Non-Malays Marrying Foreign Women. I Wonder Why?
More non-Malay men chose to marry foreign women in this country with Indonesians topping the list of brides, while the trend of local women marrying foreign men is on the decline.
Deputy Home Affairs Minister Datuk Tan Chai Ho said 33,995 marriages between local men and foreign women were registered from 2001 to June this year.
Marriages between local men and Indonesian women had risen to 2,036 in 2005 from 1,386 in 2001, followed by Chinese women to 1,711 from 351, Vietnamese women to 1,185 from 28 and Thai women to 931 from 681, he said.
Tan said marriages between local women with foreign men had dropped 33.8 per cent to 11,112 over the same period.
"British men are Malaysian women's top picks with 169 marriages registered in 2005 compared to 149 in 2001, followed by Indian men with 86 marriages in 2005 from 71 in 2001," he said. Marriages between local women and Singaporean men had dropped to 191 from 994.
The statistics do not include Muslim marriages which are under the jurisdiction of the states' Islamic religious departments.
Replying to Fong Po Kuan (DAP-Batu Gajah) who questioned the intention of the foreigners to marry Malaysians, Tan said love was not something that could be clearly measured.
Speaking to reporters later, he dismissed a suggestion that the influx of foreigners into the country was a factor in more local men marrying foreign women. "Probably the reason is the cost of marriage," he said, adding that the ministry would take firm action if the marriages were not transparent.
Tan also disclosed that the trend of divorce among non-Malay couples was increasingly worrying with 24,190 divorces being registered from 2001 to May this year. Of the total, 18 per cent involved couples aged between 18 and 29 years, he said.
Among the main reasons were incompatibility, financial problem, sex problem, physical abuse, mental illness, presence of third party, irresponsibility, change of religion, health and drug addiction. (Bernama)
**** So after reading the above does anyone have any hypothesis regarding the phenomenon of more non-Malay men marrying foreign women while less non-Malay women are keen on foreigners now? Could the fact that there have been less Bangladeshis over the past few years since being unceremoniously booted out, be one reason why the rate has come down in women? I've read and have even blogged on the subject that some Malay and Indian women have a 'soft' corner for those studs.
One inference could be that non-Malay men have stopped finding Malaysian women attractive or 'worth marrying' and therefore have moved on to 'other' pastures; but I must hastily add that I do not subscribe to that school of thought! Any brave soul out there who would like to hazard a guess?
Deputy Home Affairs Minister Datuk Tan Chai Ho said 33,995 marriages between local men and foreign women were registered from 2001 to June this year.
Marriages between local men and Indonesian women had risen to 2,036 in 2005 from 1,386 in 2001, followed by Chinese women to 1,711 from 351, Vietnamese women to 1,185 from 28 and Thai women to 931 from 681, he said.
Tan said marriages between local women with foreign men had dropped 33.8 per cent to 11,112 over the same period.
"British men are Malaysian women's top picks with 169 marriages registered in 2005 compared to 149 in 2001, followed by Indian men with 86 marriages in 2005 from 71 in 2001," he said. Marriages between local women and Singaporean men had dropped to 191 from 994.
The statistics do not include Muslim marriages which are under the jurisdiction of the states' Islamic religious departments.
Replying to Fong Po Kuan (DAP-Batu Gajah) who questioned the intention of the foreigners to marry Malaysians, Tan said love was not something that could be clearly measured.
Speaking to reporters later, he dismissed a suggestion that the influx of foreigners into the country was a factor in more local men marrying foreign women. "Probably the reason is the cost of marriage," he said, adding that the ministry would take firm action if the marriages were not transparent.
Tan also disclosed that the trend of divorce among non-Malay couples was increasingly worrying with 24,190 divorces being registered from 2001 to May this year. Of the total, 18 per cent involved couples aged between 18 and 29 years, he said.
Among the main reasons were incompatibility, financial problem, sex problem, physical abuse, mental illness, presence of third party, irresponsibility, change of religion, health and drug addiction. (Bernama)
**** So after reading the above does anyone have any hypothesis regarding the phenomenon of more non-Malay men marrying foreign women while less non-Malay women are keen on foreigners now? Could the fact that there have been less Bangladeshis over the past few years since being unceremoniously booted out, be one reason why the rate has come down in women? I've read and have even blogged on the subject that some Malay and Indian women have a 'soft' corner for those studs.
One inference could be that non-Malay men have stopped finding Malaysian women attractive or 'worth marrying' and therefore have moved on to 'other' pastures; but I must hastily add that I do not subscribe to that school of thought! Any brave soul out there who would like to hazard a guess?
posted by The Malaysian. at 11/08/2006 06:58:00 PM
18 Comments:
At the risk of being castrated by feminists, I'll venture to say that some Malaysian women had lost their feminity. They are in-your-face, and talk and laugh louder than the men. And some men want to be treated to be treated like a king :)
o-oh... Lulu's in twubble...
from nst
foreign women - gentler, soft-spoken and less demanding, unassuming and soft-spoken
lulu type - excessive
manyak susah lor
I look forward for my Russian class. Gonne hunt me a Red Female Bear! GRRRRRR!!!
lulu
dun worry b happy
actually I believe there is a general perception that foreign women( xcept piau mei from China) have an easy demeanor (correct spelling ah ) and try harder to please which make most men weak between the knees 'later at home'( hence 'apparent' rise in ED rate of late,felt only by long suffering almost xpired spouses),its complicated u c ...
I think the stats provided cannot be analysed on it's own. It STUPID to try to make sense of these numbers without references to other dimension such as general demographics for the duration mentioned, mainly the gender demographics and the income distribution. One can generate many "ASSUMPTIONS" but these are baseless without proper data to back them up. Generally, more non malays are marrying foreign women because :
a) the female population earning power has improve tremendously and this cause ( implicit or explicit) them to be more independent and more shall I say "better say" of their choice of husband. It's a general phenomenon that has happened in HK, Taiwan and SG!
b) for the numbers of marriages reported, how many percentage of these are blue collar workers and how many are white collar worker? these information makes a whole difference!! Go figure
"highest number are Indonesians"
Some newspapers are speculating these are sham marriages to allow the Indonesians to work in Malaysia.
Which is absolutely plausible! So the numbers are not what they seem
Would that create more 'minorities'?
the guy mentioned in the post before this also seems to enjooy foreign women ;-)
I FOR ONE FIND FOREIGN MEN MORE MATURED, SOPHISTICATED AND BALLSY COMPARING TO THE LOCAL MEN WHO JUST WHINE AND DO NOTHING ABOUT THE LOCAL POLITICS AND ECONOMY. LOOK AT WHO'S LEADING THE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN GENERALLY TELL A LOT ABOUT THE MEN OF THIS COUNTRY.
IF I'M ASSUMING RIGHT, IT'S JUST THE TOUGH LAWS THAT MAKES IT HARD FOR THE FOREIGN MAN TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY AFTER THEY GET MARRIED?!
OR THEIR MARRIAGES ARE NOT REGISTERED LOCALLY?
OR PROBABLY WE WOMEN JUST CHOOSE TO STAY SINGLE AND HAPPY RATHER THAN "MARRED" FOR LIFE?
MEN WHO ACTUALLY PAY FOR THEIR BRIDES FROM VIETNAM. WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AN "UPFRONT" PAYMENT FOR AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACTUAL SEX SLAVE CUM HOUSEKEEPER. IF THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO A WOMAN... NO WONDER MORE AND MORE SMART WOMEN ARE NOT GETTING MARRIED. AND WOMEN GET SEX FOR FREEEEEEE WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT = JUST LOOK AROUND AT THE PUBS IN BANGSAR. THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF WHITE STUDS AROUND WHO ARE EVER READY TO OFFER THAT.
AND BOYS, OH BOYS, PLEASE GROW UP.
NO ONE CAN CASTRATE YOU UNLESS YOU ALLOW IT YOURSELF. IT TAKES A MAN WITH CONFIDENCE TO ADMIT THEIR MISTAKES AND ADMIT THAT THEY CAN'T ALWAYS BE RIGHT. THERE'S A CAPTAIN AND A NAVIGATOR. YOU CAN'T DRIVE AND READ THE MAP AT THE SAME TIME, THEREFORE, WHEN THE NAVIGATOR WHO HAS THE MAP TELLS YOU WHICH DIRECTION TO HEAD FOR, YOU SHOULD FOLLOW. IT'S JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT. TREASURE HUNT IS SUCH A FAVORITE SPORT AND YET MEN CAN'T LEARN FROM SUCH SIMPLE ACTS?!?!? OR THEY JUST BLINDLY GO THRU LIFE BELIEVING ALL THE MYTHS THEY WANT TO BELIEVE... DELUDED AND LED BY THE OTHER BLINDS. A PIECE OF ADVICE FOR YOU TOTAL IDIOT BOYS WHO NEVER GREW OUT OF YOUR MOTHER'S WOMB, IF YOU WANT A PARTNER IN LIFE, DON'T FIND A NAVIGATOR THAT CANNOT READ!! YOU'LL END UP DOING ALL THE READING AND DRIVE INTO THE RAVINE?! GET IT NOW, BOYS?
AND HERE'S ANOTHER FACT:
WHO ARE THOSE THAT MARRY THAI, INDON AND VIETNAMESE? THEY ARE USUALLY UNEDUCATED AND FROM THE LOWEST INCOME GROUP. NO ONE WANTS TO MARRY THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S 60 AND PAID 20K FOR A BRIDE FROM VIETNAM WHO'S 20 YRS OLD. THEY LOOK SO AWKWARD AND HE'S SO AFRAID TO LET HER OUT OF THE HOUSE COS HE'S AFRAID THAT SHE MIGHT RUN AWAY!! HAHA KUDOS!
HE THINKS THAT SHE WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM IN HIS OLD AGE.. ONLY GOD KNOWS. HOW PATHETIC.
FOR THOSE GUYS WHO ARE SO PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE MARRYING RUBBISH THAN QUIT COMPLAINING THAT THE GOVT IS BRAINDRAINING THE COUNTRY AND TURNING IT INTO A CUNT-TREE OF ILLITERATE FOOLS.
Probably men are are targeted here..I do not champion men here..But take a reality check..
How many men out there find that it is difficult to find a wife in M'sia.
What i meant was, a wife that can be a navigator for us,a true one indeed.
Most women out there, are carreer focus now.Bravo.Even my wife is one.I do encourage her to be one.But then she also duly carries out her responsibility towards me and my family.
Men only look for a women like that,not for some meat among our thigh.
And there's alot of women,not all but some whom really prefer a mat salleh, rather than our own bunch.Maybe the thought of Mat Salleh are more gentle and settled.But try going to the Mat Salleh country.See how women there are treated.M'sian fare better.
So for all men and women out there.It doesn't matter if you want to get yourself a foreigner,just make sure that's the best equation you can make...And the fault doesn't lie in any women nor men...It's just in our sinful mind..
For easy to understand better i put the reason below.
1-Beauty
2-Soft speaking
3-Easy
4-Un-demanding
5-Differences
6-Good services
etc,etc.
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More Malaysians are travelling, speak languasges other than just their mother tongue, have more money, better education, have less fear of foreigners and hence are less racist...these factors probaly account for some if not all the foreign marriages. Besides if they have more money, they will be perceived as possibily being good provider. That will make them attractive as spouses to women (both foreign and local).
Finally, there is love...
It's a long gone stale topic, but i'm still leaving my comment. I'm referring to people who leave bad comments and not the author. At the end of the day, it's the companionship. Look at it as two people living together instead of comparing men vs women and who has done greater damage.
And to someone who have said "WHO ARE THOSE THAT MARRY THAI, INDON AND VIETNAMESE? THEY ARE USUALLY UNEDUCATED AND FROM THE LOWEST INCOME GROUP. NO ONE WANTS TO MARRY THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE." is a very cruel person. And he/she is a sexist. Aren't all women are the same, as they are also looking for someone to love them. So why are you saying such hatred words towards them. Aren't they women as well. TELL ME WHAT SO LOW ABOUT THEM.
I have a foreign wife and she treats me well. So, what is so problem having her as my wife. It's just that she is not malaysian. Other than that, she is a women too.
I can really write this whole night long, but it is a waste to talk to someone like you.
Whether local or foreign women, they are all human-women. Remember this nationality is a man-made differentiation.
It does not mean that just because they are non-Chinese, non-Malaysian or non-Vietnamese....that they are worse off or better off....
If one does not look at race, do not look at nationality. It does not matter if you are local or not-local, If you want to cheat and treat your spouse badly, you would have do it anyway regardless which country you come from.
I had ex-Malaysian wife and she wanted me to pay for all family expenses and do houseworks. In return, I received not even a small hugs, kisses, and initimate relationship from her after all responsibilities fulfilled.
I am currently having a Vietnamese wife and she wanted me to pay for all family expenses and do houseworks. In return, I received daily hugs, kisses, and initimate relationship from her even not all responsibilities are fulfilled.
As a man, I am driven by "no love, no money" NOT "no money, no love"
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