Saturday, September 23, 2006

Any Truth To Kuan Yew's "Malaysian Chinese Marginalised" Statement?

Lee Kuan Yew should have made one slight change in his statement which has caused raised eyebrows and strong disapproval from a not too happy Malay leadership. He should have stated that the Malaysian Indians along with the Chinese have been marginalised and our government would have murmured and muttered but would not have felt justified or compelled to respond as strongly.

If truth be told, the process of 'unintended' marginalisation began in the aftermath of the May 13, 1969 riots. If the Malaysian Chinese are not marginalised as the Malay leaders contend, then it is not because there were no unjust policies in place which were vigorously implemented. The enthusiasm and eagerness with which these unfair policies were enforced and executed would definitely have led to serious marginalisation of a less resilient community. The Malaysian Indians are a good example of such a group who have suffered badly and are recognised even by the government as being increasingly marginalised and in need of official help.

But our leaders feel hurt about such 'naughty' accusations as DPM Najib put it. In fact Najib said "the government had never adopted a policy which aimed at hindering the progress of the non-Bumiputeras as all it wanted was nothing but fairness and equal distribution of wealth for all races." (Of course he doesn't believe what he is preaching and neither do we.)

If the Chinese have not been marginalised, unlike the Indians, it is not because of the benevolence of the government towards them. It is in spite of every policy and hurdle placed in their path. What has to be configured now is where the Chinese would be today if unfair government policies were never implemented. They would probably be several score notches higher in any socio-economic indicator or index.

The reality is that the Chinese have resisted and fought back against marginalisation with a high degree of success because of the resilience, inner strengths, talents and genius of their community in Malaysia. It is not my intention to angkat them for I have nothing to gain by it. I am merely stating what I believe are facts.

So if the government does not agree with Lee Kuan Yew or feels slighted by his statements, go ahead and object and deny that the Chinese are truly or systematically marginalised. But please oh please don't take any credit for it; that you don't deserve. Only the Chinese should take pride and all the credit for stoutly defending their place in the Malaysian sun.


Blogger Lone said...

To say that Chinese Malaysians have been marginalised is not quite right. Some Malaysians of all ethnic origins have been marginalised, the Indians, the Chinese, the Malays, the Ibans and so on. The elites in this country has seen to that and they also come from all ethnic origins.
The have nots and need mores have been marginalised by those well connected to the BN ruling clique.

11:57 AM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lone's got it right.

How do you marinalize a community that owns over 50% of Malaysia's wealth?

LKY is just being devious... which is par for the course for that sly old dog

2:15 PM GMT+8  
Blogger toniXe said...

whatever he or you may call it, the Malays get all the opportunities at the expense of the other races who r also citizens, meaning there exist different classes of citizens...

We r Bumis U r not kind of arguments .

2:26 PM GMT+8  
Blogger walski69 said...

Firstly, LKY was probably baiting our leadership. Be that as it may, sometimes it is more prudent to simply dismiss such remarks, without going into too much elaboration, because it is the elaboration that becomes more damaging.

In any case, my personal view is that perhaps it is high time that our leadership realizes, and emphasizes to each and every one of those leader's respective constituents, that real marginalization does not inflict based on color or creed.

Policies must be adjusted to this reality, rather than continuing with lop-sided ones that have neither fully achieved their intended objectives, nor have made Malaysia the equitable utopia those policies were meant to bring about.

Assistance is needed for some to manage life a little better, that is for sure. But the receipients must receive based purely on NEED and no longer based on affiliation to one particular ethnicity, or even a group of related ethnicities.

That approach has been tried, and the effectiveness (or lack of it) of such trials are now evident.

To quote Freud: 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results'.

But is the BN leadership (UMNO in particular) able to adapt to a new paradigm, based on real need? And in doing that, possibly risk some level of support at the grassroots? Or even leading to the eventual dismantling of a race-based political landscape?

The cynical side of me says, no.

Ideologically, Malaysian politics is too entrenched in the race arena to change any time soon. At least not in the forseable future.

Having said that, I would be more than thrilled if I were to be proven wrong. Because if I ever were, it would mean that finally, we would be threading the correct path; towards an aspiration that one old man once labelled '2020'...

Shifting paradigms can be painful, especially without a clutch. But that clutch is nothing more than a higher level of, and more articulated, logical reasoning, plus a healthy dose of common sense.

As it has always been, it's a matter of choice between short-term personal gain, and the long-term good, for all Malaysians.

4:48 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chinese, Indian and other minor races are the catalyst for the weak and layback Malay, can u deny it? But when come to wellfare, these minority are not counted as citizens. They have to fork out their own resources to support their children's education,churches, temples, ... They are the minority yet they are the biggest faithful taxpayers. Malay claimed to be the majority but they are not patriotic in serving the nation, they only want to rob from the minority and say that what the minority have are theirs. These are facts. So, are the minority being marginalized? If not, what do you called NEP, and host of bias policies which only benefiting the majority?
Sometime I ask myself this silly question: Are the minority foreigners? If not, why they are being treated less significant than the illegal immigrants (IM)? IM do not hve to pay tax when dong business, they can get Mycard and cast vote, ... Simply saddness.

5:22 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course Lee Kuan Yew is right !

Just quote one simple example ;if you are a Chinese , you won't be able to get a PDA licence to operate a petrol station even if you have the capital.

The licences are only issued to Malays ; if this isn't marginalisation , then what is it ???

Look at the cabinet , isn't all the important portfolio held by Malays ?
The Chinese ministers are only holding those unimportant ministries.

Yet Lim KY , Koh TK and MCA's ministers still unashamely allege that Lee KY is wrong .

........government contracts and project......?
Civil service?
Approve permits?
National Type schools funding?
University intakes?
.................................. ...................

Hmm........ I wonder whether these Gerakan and MCA buggers still have any self-respect !

11:05 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous human book said...

List of racial discriminations in Malaysia, practiced by government as well as government agencies. This list is an open secret. Best verified by government itself because it got the statistics.

This list is not in the order of importance, that means the first one on the list is not the most important and the last one on the list does not mean least important.

This list is a common knowledge to a lot of Malaysians, especially those non-malays (Chinese, Ibans, Kadazans, Orang Asli, Tamils, etc) who were being racially discriminated.

Figures in this list are estimates only and please take it as a guide only. Government of Malaysia has the most correct figures. Is government of Malaysia too ashamed to publish their racist acts by publishing racial statistics?

This list cover a period of about 49 years since independence (1957).

List of racial discriminations (Malaysia):

(1) Out of all the 5 major banks, only one bank is multi-racial, the rest are controlled by malays

(2) 99% of Petronas directors are malays

(3) 3% of Petronas employees are Chinese

(4) 99% of 2000 Petronas gasoline stations are owned by malays

(5) 100% all contractors working under Petronas projects must be bumis status

(6) 0% of non-malay staffs is legally required in malay companies. But there must be 30% malay staffs in Chinese companies

(7) 5% of all new intake for government army, nurses, polices, is non-malays

(8) 2% is the present Chinese staff in Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), drop from 40% in 1960

(9) 2% is the percentage of non-malay government servants in Putrajaya. But malays make up 98%

(10) 7% is the percentage of Chinese government servants in the whole government (in 2004), drop from 30% in 1960

(11) 95% of government contracts are given to malays

(12) 100% all business licensees are controlled by malay government e.g. Approved permits, Taxi permits, etc

(13) 80% of the Chinese rice millers in Kedah had to be sold to malay controlled Bernas in 1980s. Otherwise, life is make difficult for Chinese rice millers

(14) 100 big companies set up, owned and managed by Chinese Malaysians were taken over by government, and later managed by malays since 1970s e.g. MISC, UMBC, UTC, etc

(15) At least 10 Chinese owned bus companies (throughout Malaysia, throughout 40 years) had to be sold to MARA or other malay transport companies due to rejection by malay authority to Chinese application for bus routes and rejection for their application for new buses

(16) 2 Chinese taxi drivers were barred from driving in Johor Larkin bus station. There are about 30 taxi drivers and 3 are Chinese in October 2004. Spoiling taxi club properties was the reason given

(17) 0 non-malays are allowed to get shop lots in the new Muar bus station (November 2004)

(18) 8000 billion ringgit is the total amount the government channeled to malay pockets through ASB, ASN, MARA, privatisation of government agencies, Tabung Haji etc, through NEP over 34 years period

(19) 48 Chinese primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(20) 144 Indian primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(21) 2637 malay primary schools built since 1968 - 2000

(22) 2.5% is government budget for Chinese primary schools. Indian schools got only 1%, malay schools got 96.5%

(23) While a Chinese parent with RM1000 salary (monthly) cannot get school-text-book-loan, a malay parent with RM2000 salary is eligible

(24) 10 all public universities vice chancellors are malays

(25) 5% - the government universities lecturers of non-malay origins had been reduced from about 70% in 1965 to only 5% in 2004

(26) Only 5% is given to non-malays for government scholarships over 40 years

(27) 0 Chinese or Indians were sent to Japan and Korea under "Look East Policy"

(28) 128 STPM Chinese top students could not get into the course that they aspired e.g. Medicine (in 2004)

(29) 10% place for non-bumi students for MARA science schools beginning from year 2003, but only 7% are filled. Before that it was 100% malays

(30) 50 cases whereby Chinese and Indian Malaysians, are beaten up in the National Service program in 2003

(31) 25% is Malaysian Chinese population in 2004, drop from 45% in 1957

(32) 7% is the present Malaysian Indians population (2004), a drop from 12% in 1957

(33) 2 million Chinese Malaysians had emigrated to overseas since 40 years ago

(34) 0.5 million Indian Malaysians had emigrated to overseas

(35) 3 million Indonesians had migrated into Malaysia and became Malaysian citizens with bumis status

(36) 600000 are the Chinese and Indian Malaysians with red IC and were rejected repeatedly when applying for citizenship for 40 years. Perhaps 60% of them had already passed away due to old age. This shows racism of how easily Indonesians got their citizenships compare with the Chinese and Indians

(37) 5% - 15% discount for a malay to buy a house, regardless whether the malay is rich or poor

(38) 2% is what Chinese new villages get compare with 98% of what malay villages got for rural development budget

(39) 50 road names (at least) had been changed from Chinese names to other names

(40) 1 Dewan Gan Boon Leong (in Malacca) was altered to other name (e.g. Dewan Serbaguna or sort) when it was being officially used for a few days. Government try to shun Chinese names. This racism happened in around year 2000 or sort

(41) 0 churches/temples were built for each housing estate. But every housing estate got at least one mosque/surau built

(42) 3000 mosques/surau were built in all housing estates throughout Malaysia since 1970. No temples, no churches are required to be built in housing estates

(43) 1 Catholic church in Shah Alam took 20 years to apply to be constructed. But told by malay authority that it must look like a factory and not look like a church. Still not yet approved in 2004

(44) 1 publishing of Bible in Iban language banned (in 2002)

(45) 0 of the government TV stations (RTM1, RTM2, TV3) are directors of non-malay origins

(46) 30 government produced TV dramas and films always showed that the bad guys had Chinese face, and the good guys had malay face. You can check it out since 1970s. Recent years, this tendency becomes less

(47) 10 times, at least, malays (especially Umno) had threatened to massacre the Chinese Malaysians using May 13 since 1969

(48) 20 constituencies won by DAP would not get funds from the government to develop. Or these Chinese majority constituencies would be the last to be developed

(49) 100 constituencies (parliaments and states) had been racistly re-delineated so Chinese voters were diluted that Chinese candidates, particularly DAP candidates lost in election since 1970s

(50) Only 3 out of 12 human rights items are ratified by Malaysia government since 1960

(51) 0 - elimination of all forms of racial discrimination (UN Human Rights) is not ratified by Malaysia government since 1960s

(52) 20 reported cases whereby malay ambulance attendances treated Chinese patients inhumanely, and malay government hospital staffs purposely delay attending to Chinese patients in 2003. Unreported cases may be 200

(53) 50 cases each year whereby Chinese, especially Chinese youths being beaten up by malay youths in public places. We may check at police reports provided the police took the report, otherwise there will be no record

(54) 20 cases every year whereby Chinese drivers who accidentally knocked down malays were seriously assaulted or killed by malays

(55) 12% is what ASB/ASN got per annum while banks fixed deposit is only about 3.5% per annum

There are hundreds more racial discriminations in Malaysia to add to this list of "colossal" racism. It is hope that the victims of racism will write in to expose racism.

Malaysia government should publish statistics showing how much malays had benefited from the "special rights" of malays and at the same time tell the statistics of how much other minority races are being discriminated.

Hence, the responsibility lies in the Malaysia government itself to publish unadulterated statistics of racial discrimination.

If the Malaysia government hides the statistics above, then there must be some evil doings, immoral doings, shameful doings and sinful doings, like the Nazi, going on onto the non-malays of Malaysia.

Civilized nation, unlike evil Nazi, must publish statistics to show its treatment on its minority races. This is what Malaysia must publish……….

We are asking for the publication of the statistics showing how "implementation of special rights of malays" had inflicted colossal racial discrimination onto non-malays.

11:19 AM GMT+8  
Blogger perlisan said...

Umno marginalised all non-Umno Malaysians, especially the non-bumi Malaysians.
If they donot like the word marginalised, may I put it another way: They practise Apartheid policy where most of the non-bumi Malysian encounter all sort of hurdles in they daily life. Some of the previous comments have quoted ample examples. Need I quote more examples?

4:08 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can agreed with LKY? LKY himself wont agree as to say
the Spore Malay are still systematically being marginalised in his own backyard and he wont admit.
The criteria of meritocracy is having more chinese in every
space.Even his late farther dislike him.He is spitting on his own eating plate.He is not looking at his mirror.Why he raised the defending word Chinese? Is he a Chinese or a Singaporean?how many malay millionaire is made in Spore?how many smart malay being raised? why vital place and position are still forbid to the malay? because the MELAYU is a non trusted specicies in SingaPura.LKY ever quote Singapore does not belong to the Chinese,Indian,Malay nor everybody.It belong to every Singaporean.
Then WHO are the SINGAPOREANS? Is the Malay is still stupid?Not loyal?why they are still eating the crust of the economic pie?the malay is still underpar bcos discrimination exist in front of LKY nose and still growing.

8:10 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey human book, maybe you can say you minorities asked for it, becos u guys said the country could not live without BN, do u still buy it now?

9:41 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least AAB didn't straight away shoot down LKY, he asked for an explanation; not like the DPM,TDM and the rest of UMNOputras who denied the allegation without an answer; worst still are those who all the time claim to be leaders of CINA, they talked with their heads buried in the sand, perhaps at the same time wetting their pants.

9:55 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Foreign workers and their children are among the most marginalised people in the world everywhere.

We are the children and grandchildren of foreign workers. I wonder why we consider ourselves so special that we must demand that the local people give us "rights and privileges" that we would not dream of giving today's foreign workers????

10:54 AM GMT+8  
Blogger perlisan said...

The Malaysian,
Our politician practise racialism and our main newsmedia donot publish the majority non-bumi's sentiment & feelings. But judging from the outburst of anger & frustration expressed by readers in your blog, I shudder to think of the future of Malaysia. we are sitting on a time bomb.
At the moment, there are still some unseen forces binding all the various races together in Malaysia. However, onece these "forces" are gone, our country would fell like former Yugoslavia & other racially torn countries.

I donot agree with our present government's racial policy, neither do I agree with those highly racial remarks in your blog. I believe not all Malaysians are racialist in nature, we are just being stucked with the present system with the racialist politicians who cared for their own interest. The politician are the main culprit who always "champion" for their own race's "interest??".
My father's neighbour is a Malay family and they are friendlier to my father than to their Malay neighbour next door. During the previous year haj, he even gave his house keys & request my father to look after his house for a month. I also have a Malay friend who, after staying in a Malay community for years, said that if he were to move out, he would prefer to move to a mixed community area.

I could only pray for the future of our country. I pray for a change of our present government so that the present "policy" could be reversed & all Malaysian live in harmony. It is no use telling the world how well the various races live together in harmony superficially, while deep inside hatred & anger is building up.

1:50 PM GMT+8  
Blogger The Malaysian. said...

perlisan, I am in total agreement with you. The sometimes rabid rage and very strong opinions given are at both frightening and disappointing. We seem to have failed as a nation when it comes to inter-ethnic unity. I just hope our leaders take heed of this.

4:04 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Smallvoice said...

The Malaysian

re your comment to perlisan, do u think they will ever learn? They even have the 'onion face' to tell the world that we r the best model of multiracial country, urghhh!!!

Those politicians r only fooling the innocents, they say one thing but act the other. Come next year they will sing another tune to please the chinese, indian, u know why? cos it's time to fish some votes then!!! how pathetic.

8:35 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just in. Malays are not marginalised in Singapore, for sure. Hady Mirza has just been voted as an IDOL of Singapore. The face of Singapore is Malay. The most popular personality of Singapore is Hady Mirza. Last year, it was Taulfik Batisah, also a Malay.

9:58 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just look at the ratio between chinese school ade the government school, and you'll understand.

7:18 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LKY is just a senile old fart. If you ignore him he may just drift away in oblivion.

9:19 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With all the complains about brain drain etc.

Sometimes you just get the impression that the government just doesn't bother to make any effort to retain those really bright ones. (with most of them getting scholarships from those who appreciate them)preferring to confer scholarships to bumis instead of competing based on meritocracy, as nearly every single other scholarship in the world does, (cept those aimed at the poor)

To build a mosque is extremely simple. To build another religion's place of worship requires applications which may be delayed up to 20 years and even beyond.

What's up with all the hypocrisy?

10:42 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


9:58 AM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brain drain in Malaysia
I scored straight As in every single exam I took in Malaysia. I topped my school year after year in every examination. I am active in extra curicular activities etc...

but.. because I am non-bumiputera, I have not been appreciated.. Another country has recognized my talents and have offered me a generous scholarship. It has been almost 9 years in this foreign country... and she has nurtured me very well. I got all my first choices. I am considering converting my citizenship. I feel very appreciated for my talent here.

Malaysia did not help me when i needed scholarship, funding etc.. The other country did, and they did it generously. I can proudly say that because of the other country, I am now a very successful researcher in the life sciences field.

1:37 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LKY is right.

I have got all A1/2 in my SPM yet I could not enter local university yet one (the only Malay) of my school was given scholarship to Japan to further studies?!!

I studied STPM and managed to enter local univ to study science and surprised to find that the "hot" courses like medicine, engineering and laws were taken up by many so-so result Malay and lazy Malay students!
No wonder houses collapse, patient mistreated, criminals on the street!

I later obtained a Master degree and worked in the goverment sector. When I asked for training, the HR said too expensive to fund me, yet on the same day offered it to a Malay who just came back from a training course! Later, I asked for pay increment due to my master degree vs degree (my Malay colleagues). The HR said I was over qualified and should work elsewhere. Later came another training opportunity at Japan to another new Malay colleague. He did not want to go and was asked to write to the big boss for justification.

Thanks to LKY for me to work in Singapore. It is equal opportunity here. People work hard and get rewarded and not based on race.

Singapore has almost no nature resources vs Malaysia, yet she has strived to become a better country in many aspects. Malaysia's nature resources has been wasted by the lazy Malay. When other people getting achievement, u ugly Malay marginalised the rests.

What if LKY developed Singapore on the Semenanjung side and Malaysia on the island? Your imagination is right!

11:35 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Malaysian,

I am a big fan of your commentaries, and I think thus far you've been very fair and unbiased. Which is always a good thing. However, in this entry you've clearly taken a racial side. I don't have anything against your stance, but I am quite uncomfortable with it.

8:04 PM GMT+8  
Blogger The Malaysian. said...

anonymous, 8.04pm, thank you for your very honest opinion. I try to be as circumspect as much as I can. Alas we are human. I shall surely keep your observation in mind when posting in the future. I truly appreciate your feedback and thanks again.

8:32 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


8:25 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grow up,Malaysia politicians.Just before LKY mentioned about Chinese being marginalised in Malaysia,Khairy and couple of Malaysia ministers had spoken about Malay in penang being marginalised like SINGAPORE.Even though this is not true,no Singaporean has protested to the Malaysian government.

8:31 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous bsb said...

The May 13 1969 has been used by sucessive goverments in Malaysia to favour Bumiputras at the expense of everyone else.

I don't see a way out for the minorities until there is a split in the Malay majority itself. So the path forward is going to be nasty for everyone unless the politicians wise up to the fact that the nation is sitting on time bomb.

Get real or risk losing it all. There is a need to look back at the good old concept of a Malaysian Malaysia rather than a Malay or Islamic Malaysia. Race and Religion on clouds the minds and leaves no room for understanding and developing a common vision for a multi racial community.

5:43 AM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am one of the victims of the quota education system during the early 90s. However, this system had made me stronger. I don't think I would have achieved this much today if I were admitted to a public university. Anyway, I think the Chinese can adapt very well in any kind of situations, something that the others need to learn from us.

12:37 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In M'sia, we all know some things cannot be said, even if these things are true. LKY let his guard down, and said something that he must have realised was incredibly provocative, as soon as the words left his mouth. Malay politicians had no choice but to respond, even though everyone - Malay, Chinese or Indian knows that LKY may have a big mouth, but he was not lying.

We grow up accepting that we may all be Malaysians but we are not all equal. Justice and equality are not the same thing. It may be unjust that a high-achieving non-bumi may miss out on uni, while his bumi friend is given a scholarship to Japan, but we see it happen everyday and we accept this is part of the delicate art of a Negotiated Compromise in Msia.

There are some very convincing and oft-repeated reasons why M'sia needs to have pro-bumi policies. We have all been told that without these policies, our nation will descend into racial anarchy, that the economy will be controlled by the Chinese, that Malays will be marginalised because of their inability to compete with the other races.

I think these reasons are actually true.

Without these policies, both Chinese and Malay politicians know that the vast majority of successful Malaysian entrepreneurs, professionals and even will come from the minority races.

This clearly is not a sustainable phenomenon.

It is possible for a discenfranchised minority to suffer in silence. A disenfranchised majority will not be so tolerant.

This is the political reality of Malaysia. It will not change, not just because of natural resistance from current political vested interests, but also because Malay people need these policies to level their playing field.

Without these policies, Malays will be marginalised in their homeland, their economic inheritance stolen from them.

We all know these policies come at a cost - the hollow experience of being a Malaysian non-bumi, the loss of our best and brightest to foreign lands, the way our country is so poorly regarded, and yet our malaysian expatriates so highly valued, by the global community.

Nonbumis have two options, either 1) suffer in silence and make the most of what we have been given or 2) leave for the nearest country that will judge us by our ability, not our skin colour.

If you are in Malaysia, take courage because racial discrimination is not the same as economic oppression - work hard and you can still beat the odds. If you are a Malaysian Chinese/Indian overseas, don't come back until Malaysia can you see as a valued professional rather than black or yellow.

7:58 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, it is not right to criticise another race be it Malay, Indian or Chinese.
For today I might be a Chinese, but when I die I might be born an Indian, or a Malay for that matter because race is not determined by us. It is determined by the the unseen hand (of "Almighty God") who created the universe, and everything there that existed or will ever exist.

Without going into the argument of whether there is a God or not, and taking a global perspective, and looking at this universal possibility that one may be re-incarnated and born into a different race in the next birth, whether one is a Chinese or and Indian should not be different.

If I am a Malay, I would very conveniently accept what has been made to be, with the constitution biased towardes the Malay Race. I would not put up a fight to benefit an in-built privelege that is inherited the day I am born. Let's face it. That is reality. On the other hand, a Chinese should not boast and brag that he is more superior than another race, lest it should become a point of jealousy and hatred that others envy about.

The truth is this: That there were situations that had cause the May 13 riots, and that should be learnt no matter one is a Chinese or a Malay. But, to continue harping on the cause that led the the May13 incident and to continue emphasizing on the imbalance that led to the May13 incidence is not going to benefit anyone. From a global perspective, today one has to be resilient whether one is in Malaysia or in Indonesia, or in any part of the world because the Earth is becoming a global village. Like it or not. Outdated policies are no longer going to be any relevance going into the future. Those policies that mandate a balance of wealth is no longer any relevance. For example, the Malays are no longer that poor anymore, no doubt there will continue to be a certain % of the population that is in this category. Similarly, there will be a certain % of Chinese, and a certain % of Indians that is in this category. The total sum of this is always 100, and it cannot become more. So, to bring about a re-adjustment means others will have to be sacrificed. It is plain simple.

So the question of marginalisation is a question that got to be answered by taking into consideration the question of what is "Balance" and what is considered "IMBALANCE". Can every one be rich? And, can everyone who lives in the RURAL COUNTRYSIDE be as rich as the one living in the URBAN? What is the equitable? We have not got a definition yet. Does it mean that one earning RM 500 in the countryside is poor when it does not cost more than RM 100 to stay alive? And, does it mean that one earning RM2,000 in the URBAN is rich when it costs more than RM 2000 to stay alive in the URBAN CITY? Tell me who is wealthier?

5:34 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous labview1958 said...

The aborigines of Australia, the Red Indians of America and the Orang Asli of Malaysia are marginalised. Malaysian Chinese, hardly?

2:14 AM GMT+8  
Anonymous Sam said...

Anonymous, if you are reborn as a Malay, it would be because you did alot of bad things during your current life and hence you get a demotion in your next life; so that would be your own fault

3:03 AM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's 80% truth of what Kuan Yew's said.If Malaysian Chinese or Malaysian Indians intend to buy a house, they need to pay 100% of the advertise sales price while the malay's indigenous(bumiputra) get discounts from 15% to 20%of the sales price depend on the states they lives within.The reason is because they earned less than the other 2 minorities races and not so much malay's indigenous owned houses. When the malay's indigenous (bumiputra) intend to do businesses all they need to do is just apply and speak out. The Goverment will allocated them with capitals and lands as well if the need arises.Inside the land they(applicant) will build their own house and after 3 to 5 decades the lands will automatically belong to thems.And if our goverment really need that land in future to be developed then the goverment had to buy back the land they leased out to applicants several decades ago through a scheme name FELDA. Malaysian Indians and Malaysian Chinese(bukan bumiputra-non native) were denied such privilege because these 2 minorities was never truly recognise as 100%Malaysian whether or not they were born in Malaysia.

In Sabah during the 60's, 70's and 80's there's still rotation schedules for Chief Minister post for all races but in the 90's this rotations has been abolished.Only malay indigenious are eligible to be Chief Minister.

The only current state's that have other races beside from malay indigenous to held the Chief Minister post is Penang but our Malaysian Goverment is now discussing of abolished the rotation systems for the post of Chief Minister of Penang as well. Times shall tell whether Malaysian Chinese and Malaysian Indians still have the opportunity to hold the Penang Chief Minister post's.

MIC and MCA couldn't do anything but they are doing all their best(shut-up)or risks recurrence of MAY 13 1969 riots or racial unrest.

This is marginalised, unfairs and unequals to Malaysian Chinese, Malaysian Indians and other small minorities groups

Malaysian Goverment practices and calls these with prides:
Democratic, Fair and Equals but when it's much opposites of what our goverment reflects

5:05 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All these has been happening for the last 37 years. Can we blame others? Most of the Chinese and Indian cast the vote to the wrong hand. They vote for the one who can't fight for us when time like this. I think it is time for us to stand up by giving opposition some strenght to help fight for us.
I urge the Malaysia Chinese and Indians in Singapore and overseas come back to vote for the right person who can really fight for us. We need to unite together and fight for what we deserve.
Please pass this message to the Chinese and Indians. Do yourself and your future descendants a favour. Thanks...

4:42 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck all ya'll man....we're malaysians...simple as tat...ill tell u wat the real prob is....its religion...practice religion in the right manner and things will be ok....i believe islam is a beautiful religion..just ask a few of my buddies...but sorry guys, i gotta admit malaysia has taken islam to a different 'level' alltogether. Come on guys, all religions go through my fellow malaysians who are islam, please, dont take it too seriously...even jesus himself got scrutinized in forms of cartoons and stuff...u dont see the christians taking the streets do u?....a lil more tolerance my brothers and sisters in islam...thats all we other 'non-bumi' malaysians ask....this is a great country...regardless of anythin lets just live together aite?


11:58 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous feddup4 said...

As long u are a minority or non-BN supporter u r deemed to be marginalized in Malaysia. It does not matter whether u r Malay, Chinese or Indian, just as long u r under this hipocratic government u r screwed.

A simple scenario can be seen in the recent floods in Johor, melaka n parts of selangor. Non-BN flood victims are given RM50 where else BN-voters where given RM2000. In times of crisis, does it matter which political party you belong to?

1:48 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Michael Chick said...

It's been interesting to read such free-flowing comments on an all "Malaysian" free for all. While we are on the subject, how many of you have read the book entitled "Contesting Malayness"? Written by a Professor of National University of Singapore. Cost S$32 (about). It reflects the Anthropologists views that there is no such race as the "Malays" to begin with. If we follow the original migration of the Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago, they moved into Taiwan, (now the Alisan), then into the Phillipines (now the Aeta) and moved into Borneo (4,500yrs ago) (Dayak). They also split into Sulawesi and progressed into Jawa, and Sumatera. The final migration was to the Malayan Peninsular 3,000yrs ago. A sub-group from Borneo also moved to Champa in Cambodia at 4,500yrs ago.

Interestingly, the Champa deviant group moved back to present day Kelantan. There are also traces of the Dong Song and HoaBinh migration from Vietnam and Cambodia. To confuse the issue, there was also the Southern Thai migration, from what we know as Pattani today. (see also "Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and the Malay Peninsular")

Of course, we also have the Minangkabau's which come from the descendants of Alexander the Great and a West Indian Princess. (Sejarah Melayu page 1-3)

So the million Dollar Question... Is there really a race called the "Malays"? All anthropologists DO NOT SEEM TO THINK SO.

Neither do the "Malays" who live on the West Coast of Johor. They'd rather be called Javanese. What about the west coast Kedah inhabitants who prefer to be known as "Achenese"? or the Ibans who simply want to be known as IBANS. Try calling a Kelabit a "Malay" and see what response you get... you’ll be so glad that their Head-Hunting days are over.

In an article in the Star, dated: Dec 3rd 2006

available for on-line viewing at:

An excerp is reproduced here below:

"The Malays – taken as an aggregation of people of different ethnic backgrounds but who speak the same language or family of languages and share common cultural and traditional ties – are essentially a new race, compared to the Chinese, Indians and the Arabs with their long histories of quests and conquests.

The Malay nation, therefore, covers people of various ethnic stock, including Javanese, Bugis, Bawean, Achehnese, Thai, orang asli, the indigenous people of Sabah and Sarawak and descendants of Indian Muslims who had married local women.

Beneath these variations, however, there is a common steely core that is bent on changing the Malay persona from its perceived lethargic character to one that is brave, bold and ready to take on the world. "

The definition of “Malay” is therefore simply a collection of people's who speak a similar type language. With what is meant by a similar type language does not mean that the words are similar. Linguists call this the "Lego-type" language, where words are added on to the root word to make meaning and give tenses and such. Somehow, the Indonesians disagree with this classification. They refuse to be called Malay…. Anyhow you may define it. Watch “Malays in Africa”; a Museum Negara produced DVD. Also, the “Champa Malays” by the same.

With this classification, they MUST also include the Phillipinos, the Papua New Guineans, the Australian Aboroginies, as well as the Polynesian Aboroginies. These are of the Australo Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago.

Getting interesting? Read on...

"Malay" should also include the Taiwanese singer "Ah Mei" who is Alisan as her tribe are the anscestors of the "Malays". And finally, you will need to define the Southern Chinese (Funan Province) as Malay also, since they are from the same stock 6,000yrs ago.

Try calling the Bugis a "Malay". Interestingly, the Bugis, who predominantly live on Sulawesi are not even Indonesians. Neither do they fall into the same group as the migrating Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago nor the Australo Melanesian group from Africa.

Ready for this?

The Bugis are the cross-breed between the Chinese and the Arabs. (FYI, a runaway Ming Dynasty official whom Cheng Ho was sent to hunt down) Interestingly, the Bugis were career Pirates in the Johor-Riau Island areas. Now the nephew of Daeng Kemboja was appointed the First Sultan of Selangor. That makes the entire Selangor Sultanate part Arab, part Chinese! Try talking to the Bugis Museum curator near Kukup in Johor. Kukup is located near the most south-western tip of Johor. (Due south of Pontian Kechil)

Let's not even get into the Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekiu, and Hang Lekir, who shared the same family last name as the other super famous "Hang" family member... Hang Li Poh. And who was she? the princess of a Ming Dynasty Emperor who was sent to marry the Sultan of Malacca. Won't that make the entire Malacca Sultanate downline "Baba" ? Since the older son of the collapsed Malaccan Sultanate got killed in Johor, (the current Sultanate is the downline of the then, Bendahara) the only other son became the Sultan of Perak. Do we see any Chinese-ness in Raja Azlan? Is he the descendant of Hang Li Poh?

Next question. If the Baba’s are part Malay, why have they been marginalized by NOT BEING BUMIPUTERA? Which part of “Malay” are they not? Whatever the answer, why then are the Portugese of Malacca BUMIPUTERA? Did they not come 100yrs AFTER the arrival of the first Baba’s? Parameswara founded Malacca in 1411. The Portugese came in 1511, and the Dutch in the 1600’s. Strangely, the Baba’s were in fact once classified a Bumiputera, but a decided that they were strangely “declassified” in the 1960’s. WHY?

The Sultan of Kelantan had similar roots to the Pattani Kingdom making him of Thai origin. And what is this "coffee table book" by the Sultan of Perlis claiming to be the direct descendant of the prophet Muhammed? Somehow we see Prof Khoo Khay Khim’s signature name on the book. I’ll pay good money to own a copy of it myself. Anyone has a spare?

So, how many of you have met with orang Asli’s? the more northern you go, the more African they look. Why are they called Negrito’s? It is a Spanish word, from which directly transalates “mini Negros”. The more southern you go, the more “Indonesian” they look. And the ones who live at Cameron Highlands kinda look 50-50. You can see the Batek at Taman Negara, who really look like Eddie Murphy to a certain degree. Or the Negritos who live at the Thai border near Temenggor Lake (north Perak). The Mah Meri in Carrie Island look almost like the Jakuns in Endau Rompin. Half African, half Indonesian.

By definition, (this is super eye-opening) there was a Hindu Malay Empire in Kedah. Yes, I said right… The Malays were Hindu. It was, by the old name Langkasuka. Today known as Lembah Bujang. This Hindu Malay Empire was 2,000yrs old. Pre-dating Borrobudor AND Angkor Watt. Who came about around 500-600yrs later. Lembah Bujang was THE mighty trading empire, and its biggest influence was by the Indians who were here to help start it. By definition, this should make the Indians BUMIPUTERAS too since they were here 2,000yrs ago! Why are they marginalized?

So, in a nutshell, the “Malays” (anthropologists will disagree with this “race” definition) are TRULY ASIA !!! (main continent and West Asia included)

We should stop calling this country “Tanah Melayu” instead call it, “Tanah Truly Asia”
For once the Tourism Ministry got it right….

5:00 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Saladin said...

If you don't want to be in move out from the country....Those who are history blind will keep on arguing the facts of the history...Tell me which country in this world that you can find the cabinet ministers from the minority groups (which is almost half of the cabinet's population)?Please be grateful to God instead of keep on arguing the Social Contract and learn history!

11:21 PM GMT+8  
Anonymous Saladin said...

If you don't want to be in move out from the country....Those who are history blind will keep on arguing the facts of the history...Tell me which country in this world that you can find the cabinet ministers from the minority groups (which is almost half of the cabinet's population)?Please be grateful to God instead of keep on arguing the Social Contract and learn history!

11:21 PM GMT+8  
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